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My review of zeiteist one and two is flawless exceution of the facts. I am a big fan. The following is my review of Moving Forward. The movie is below my review.
There have been mixed reviews on this movie, its motivation and message. As with many messages in the past, there are good parts and bad parts, and thats the problem. When you mix great ideas and ideals with an alterior motive hidden and mixed in, good ideas can assist the birth of bad ones. When you present a concept with one direction, and in the final words of each section quickly change its course and message to the exact opposite, its some times missed.
Its called the switcheroo. Or slight of hand.
This statement from the movie I agree with:
“The world is going bankrupt, (whatever the hell that means), because of this idea called debt, which doesn’t even exist in the physical reality. Its only part of a game we have invented, yet the well-being of billions of people is now being compromised. Extreme lay-offs, tent cities, accelerating poverty, austerity measures imposted, schools shutting down, child hunger,and other levels familiar deprivation all because of this elaborate fiction…what are we fucking stupid”
This statement from the movie I do not agree with:
“The Monetary Market System: Make no mistake, the greatest destroyer of ecology, the greatest source of waste,+ depletion and pollution, the greatest purveyor of violence, war, crime, poverty, animal abuse and inhumanity. The greatest generator of social and personal neurosis , mental disorder, depression, anxiety, not to mention the greatest source of social paralyses, stopping us from moving into new methodologies, for personal health, global sustainability and progress on this planet; is not some corrupt government or legislation, not some rouge corporation or bank cartel, not some flaw of human nature and not some secret hidden cabal that controls the world, it is in fact the socio-economic system its self at its very foundation. “
Yes, it is but it has been created, calcualted, and exceuted by all of those groups listed in this quote. To simply swich the blame for the cold calulated way they have crafted the system is nothing less than an admission of the motivaiton behind this movie. The quick look over there, its you, not us, (the bad guys who did this.) Dont blame us.. blame yoruselves. And guess what, we are rebranded and now are going to take all the best ideas in the world and call them our own. Hail Zeitgeist….
Zeitgeist…. Really?
The horror listed above has been carried out by those exact groups. The system they used to carry out these attrocieits is the economic system, yes. But that is just a tool. That is just the gun. There was someone designing the gun, someone making it and someone to buy it an point and shoot. That is not just the system. What about the person who planned it. Ignore them, its not the IMF. corrupt government, new world order, elite, bastards of the world… Its you.
The movie plot: Outline problems well presented and outline the horrors of the world created by the new world order , insert Good ideas, dont blame the bad guy. Blame yourself. lets move on… ?WTF
There is two ways to deal with this information:
One, ignore the good ideas because of potenitial conflict of motivations
and two, take the good ideas and implement them our selves.
There are some mixed reviews of this movie, and for good reason. Don’t let the message get lost due to corruption of even the purest ideas
http://www.wearechange.org/?p=6209Alan – WaC Ireland
There is a lot of hype online about the new Zeitgeist film, more than any documentary, purportedly coming from the truth movement. I completely agree that we need to eventually move away from money, and with some of their anti-statism sentiment. But their “solution”, the Venus Project is not a real solution, it is communism re-packaged to rope in the 21st century truth seeker. They are putting the cart before the horse, in thinking that if we impliment this system then we win and the elites and ruling classes of the world will jsut leave us alone in our super cities that robots build for us. (Thanks robots, hope you don’t break down like all human technology). The monetary system isnt the problem, thats like blaming guns for killing people. People kill people with their tools, beit guns or knives. People enslave people through their tools, beit chains, or money, or a machine world. DO you really think the “owners” of this planet and workforce are jsut gonna let this happen. Such nonsense. Even if it had a CHANCE at the start, it is certainly infiltrated now.
The idea, though it is not new, (but is packaged in hypontising emotional proaganda movies) sounds lovely. Lets give up our power to machines. In one generation we lose every skill we ever had at managing the earth, growing food, existing as a family unit, forget how to exercise, work at anything and become so dependant on the system that should an error occur the engineers become the new elite, the rulers of the technocratic communist sci-fi dystopia.
The Zeitgeist Movement’s leader, Peter Joe Merola, former stock trader turned false new age messiah couldnt even render the film effecively for its release on the 25th of January. It was the 26th in some parts of the world by the time they did.
“Thats okay”, the Zeitgeist non-movement might say, “Jacque Fresco will design and build it!”
Ah Fresco, the 94 year old, soon-to-be-dead-and-succeeded, inventer-who-never-invented-anything, the “We’re-not-a-cult”-cult-leader, who lives in dome-houses drawing pictures of bubble cars and faking philosphy he stole from Herbert Marcuse. Maybe I don’t give him enough credit. That’s not all he does these days, according to Jacques former prized disciple turned significantly-younger-than-him-bit-on-the-side contradicted herself last year when one second she was denying he had met with the UN, then when pressured by someone with the proof, admitted the Venus Project “are in contact with some people at the UN, but it hasn’t been announced”
Fresco, former member of the Communist party, wrote a book with Ken Keyes a while back. You don’t just write a book with someone you barely know, so I might go so far as to say his good friend and colleague Keyes wrote a charming book called Planethood, go look it up. The book speaks not onyl of how the UN will fix the planet, but how they will install a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT “for the earth” yay, its for the earth! Um, no thanks, what about the people, or does Skynet just see them as more resource management?
Movies exposing the new world order don’t generally get on tv, or the news. the Venus Mantrap has been on bilderbergers fox news. zeitgeist won many FILM FESTIVAL awards, even though a brief overview of the first half hour of the film has more holes than a cheap hookers fishnets and a FIVE year old could tell you that nearly ALL his claims about Krshna for example are made up. Anyway zeitgeist also premiered at Artivist film festival who are on the UNs sustainable development agenda 21 buzz and receive public endorsement from the UN.
It gets more absurd when you start checking the people PJ Merola seems to think are reputable sources. He’s either a liar and a great deceiver, or a broke ass former stock trader who doesnt check his references. At best, he is a TERRIBLE researcher.
Some parts of zeitgeist are very good, but nobody would listen if he talked 100% BS. In his first film, he discusses the NWO elites and 911 as a false flag terrorist attack by these very same elites. He is dead right on these topics, but he has since distanced himself from those facts, claiming that the massacre of thousands of innocent people is irrelevant now and we shouldnt waste our time on conspiracy theories. So he’s moved away from the good parts of his films, and his Venus project is a nothing more than a communist mousetrap. that leaves his attempted destruction of the idea of Jesus even having walked on the Earth, disgarding things he had no time for, like “facts” “evidence”, “reason” and “time” for wild theories with no basis in reality, distortions of etymology, and a penchant for third hand sources supposedly “channelled” by ascended masters and people claiming to be doing work for the aliens they met. I am not arguning here for the divinity or non-divinity of Jesus, but just for the well known fact that he walked this earth, had 12 disciples and was crucifed under Puntius Pilate around 2 millenia ago. Instead, PJ in Zeitgeist for some reason attempts to decieve the viewer into believing that Jesus was a mythical pagan sun god, and he was krshna and horus and all this other nonsensical gibberish that would appeal to college students iwth no time to research it, looking for a reason to discredit Christianity in a typical act of rebellion.
Well as it turns out Peter “Joseph” Merola was wrong. Horrifically wrong. So wrong in fact that some debunkers had trouble getting serious replies from egyptologists and even atheist professors of theology, as they thought nobody with an hour to spare for some light reading on the topic could possibly take the film seriously.
most of zeitgeists “research” on christianity, on religion in general is an insult to the viewers intelligence, as even minor research will tell you that krshna or horus etc were never crucified or that neither was a child teacher or born of a virgin. in fact a good 88% of the claims made about jesus and the bible are easilt disproved with NON biblical sources. he doesnt back up a lot of his claims, hoping you’ll take his word for it. He does list some THIRD HAND sources though, who in turn don’t list their sources as they pulled them out of the ether and MADE THEM UP in an attempt to discredit christianity as they are all OPPOSED to christianity. (im okay with people practising whatever religion they want as long as they dont hurt or decieve others, and even if you dont agree with christianity, this is not the argument here)
You may have heard the phrase pulling bullshit out of the ether, and thats exactly what zeitgeists main source did. She goes by acharaya S, and that is what she is referred to in the zeitgeist reference section, even though her name is dorothy murdock. acharaya s is the name of the supposed ascended master she claims to be channeling, where she gets much of her information. not the most reliable source.
Another “source” is “jordan maxwell”, real name russell pine, another christian basher who has had his arguments ripped apart on radio by bll cooper (who exposed this entire new age agenda years ago). maxwell pulls his name directly from a madam blavatasky (33rd degree freemason and satanist) book, isis unveiled 2 i believe. He claims to have encountered aliens who gave him a mission here on earth to carry out, (his own words) and part of that is helping eradicate christianity apparently.
The third main source for zeitgeist, (these are getting more and more dodgey) is self professed, self taught “egyptologist”, (thats like me or you claiming to be an egyptologist) and practising druid, Gerard Massey. some of his insane claims have been submitted to the highest academic circles on the topic and he has come up short. in fact he is not known amongst these circles and his book cannot be found in the factual section of any library as it is the fringe writings of a deluded druid, and contains no basis in fact, as does ANY of zeitgeists first part. in fact theres $1000 going if you can prove any of the claims made in the first part of zeitgeist.
From Anon2allofus’s channel, verified.
The Venus Project is a for profit business primarily: http://www.manta.com/c/mmg0z3j/venus-project-inc
Secondary it is a charity taking donations for the sole aim of paying for its marketing/products and publications. This is stated on the Venus project’s website store page:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/store-donate
Its members claim Jacque and Roxanne need to survive yet they have survived for 35 years without any members of the zeitgeist movement. Now they are a fully functional and profiting business with all the new marketing and promoting tools available at theor disposal:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Venus/fresco-jacque-6988718.aspx
Its business functions are to advertise/market research/promote/create publications, and carry out research in areas that benefit its members.This is categorically stated in their business codes. Its members are Jacque & Roxanne:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3434501000.html
http://www.naics.com/censusfiles/ND813910.HTM
The zeitgeist membership is its market and advertising agent at the same time and they are also valuable statistical research, they are the people who its publications are aimed at selling to in order to benefit the companies members Jacque and Roxanne.
Instead of giving these guys any energy, instead of promoting their propaganda and vision of a lazy uneducated world, lets get off our asses, and get free. Make friends with your neighbours, start on some community projects together, get growing organic rpoduce on permaculture land, lets work on free energy technology we KNOW can benefit the world and continue to regain our freedom and become completely self-dependant. In fairness, we don’t need more stuff, and we don’t need dome houses. We can build houses out of tyres and rubbish! I refuse to give my power away to a system that we don’t need, no matter how tempting it looks, how about you?
Alan – WaC Ireland
References:
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Venus/sociocyberneering-inc-…
http://anticultist.wordpress.com/
http://newagedeception.wordpress.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/Anon15Allofus
The Venus Project is a for profit business primarily:http://www.manta.com/c/mmg0z3j/venus-project-inc
Secondary it is a charity taking donations for the sole aim of paying for its marketing/products and publications. This is stated on the Venus project’s website store page:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/store-donate
Its members claim Jacque and Roxanne need to survive yet they have survived for 35 years without any members of the zeitgeist movement. Now they are a fully functional and profiting business with all the new marketing and promoting tools available at theor disposal:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Venus/sociocyberne…
Its business functions are to advertise/market research/promote/create publications, and carry out research in areas that benefit its members.This is categorically stated in their business codes. Its members are Jacque & Roxanne:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3434501000.html
http://www.naics.com/censusfiles/ND813910.HTM
The zeitgeist membership is its market and advertising agent at the same time and they are also valuable statistical research, they are the people who its publications are aimed at selling to in order to benefit the companies members Jacque and Roxanne.
